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  • Arthur Dailey
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    • Sep 5, 2013
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    U.K. General Election

    The Labour Party wins the UK general election.

    Excerpts from an A.P. profile on their leader and the new P.M.
    Compare and contrast his background and experience with the political leaders of the major parties in Canada and the USA.

    Jill Lawless -The Associated Press

    For someone often derided as dull, Keir Starmer has delivered a sensational election result. The 61-year-old Starmer led Labour to a landslide victory.

    Born in 1963, Starmer is the son of a toolmaker and a nurse who named him after Keir Hardie, the Labour Party’s first leader. One of four children, he was raised in a cash-strapped household in a small town outside London.

    “There were hard times,” he said in a speech launching his election campaign. “I know what out-of-control inflation feels like, how the rising cost of living can make you scared of the postman coming down the path: ‘Will he bring another bill we can’t afford?’”

    Starmer’s mother suffered from a chronic illness, Still’s disease, that left her in pain, and Starmer has said that visiting her in the hospital and helping to care for her helped form his strong support for the state-funded National Health Service.

    He was the first member of his family to go to college, studying law at Leeds University and Oxford. As a lawyer, he took civil liberties cases including that of the “McLibel Two,” green activists sued by McDonald’s for handing out leaflets saying the restaurant chain sold unhealthy food.

    His switch to become chief prosecutor in 2008 surprised some colleagues. But during five years in the job he gained a reputation as a tough and hard-working director of public prosecutions, a role that included prosecuting people charged with terrorism, organized crime and other serious offenses.

    Starmer entered politics relatively late, in his 50s, and was elected to Parliament in 2015. He often disagreed with the party leader at the time.

    He said he wanted to stay and fight to change Labour, arguing that “leaders are temporary, but political parties are permanent.”

    Starmer promised “a culture change in the Labour Party.” His mantra is “country before party.”

    “While I don’t think anyone is particularly excited about Keir Starmer, I think he has done a good job of situating himself as the kind of competent grown up in the room who is going to be able to bring government back to where it belongs,” said Lise Butler, senior lecturer in modern history at City University of London.
  • Fredk
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    • Oct 5, 2010
    • 11047

    #2
    The vote share shift last night is interesting. Labour gained less than 2% greater popular vote, but the change in distribution handed them a landslide of seats.

    The Reform party gained 12% of the popular vote, but only two seats. Exit polls projected 13 seats. It looks like Reform siphoned off the far right vote and cost the Conservatives a lot of seats.

    The Liberal democrats gained around 3.5% in popular vote, but again, it got them a large number of seats.

    Lots of people stayed home yesterday as well leading to one of the lowest turnouts ever. I wonder if more right leaning voters stayed home than left leaning voters?
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    • IrishGuy1979
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      • May 19, 2014
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      #3
      Originally posted by Fredk View Post
      The Reform party gained 12% of the popular vote, but only two seats. Exit polls projected 13 seats.
      They ended up with four seats.

      edit: up to 5 now after a recount
      Last edited by IrishGuy1979; Jul 5, 2024, 01:42 PM.

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      • Bellyhungry
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        • May 25, 2005
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        #4
        I did not realize Rishi Sunak is only 5'6". I always wonder why he wore those super skinny pants that make him look more like a court jester than a PM.

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        • Fredk
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          • Oct 5, 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by IrishGuy1979 View Post

          They ended up with four seats.

          edit: up to 5 now after a recount
          Yeah, last night the BBC had them with four and then this morning they showed two. Still far short of the 13 exit polls indicated.
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          • Bosco
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            • Dec 5, 2007
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            #6
            The final votes in Britain's parliamentary elections are still being counted, but one thing is crystal clear: After 14 years in power, the Conservative Party...

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            • Ignatius Reilly
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              • Nov 16, 2009
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              #7
              That pretty much sums up the state of things there, here, and in the US.

              Anger is not a policy.

              Bland is, in fact, good when it comes to leading a country (although promoting crypto while smoking a hookah was "exciting").

              You don't really want to live in "interesting times".
              "Confusion" will be my epitaph
              ...Iggy

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              • Arthur Dailey
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                • Sep 5, 2013
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                #8
                Originally posted by Ignatius Reilly View Post

                That pretty much sums up the state of things there, here, and in the US.

                Anger is not a policy.

                Bland is, in fact, good when it comes to leading a country (although promoting crypto while smoking a hookah was "exciting").

                You don't really want to live in "interesting times".
                "Bland works." Said by a very competent Premier. Possibly while chewing on his pipe.

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                • Benz
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                  • Feb 7, 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bellyhungry View Post
                  I did not realize Rishi Sunak is only 5'6". I always wonder why he wore those super skinny pants that make him look more like a court jester than a PM.
                  Donald Trump claims to be 6'3", so height is not exactly a meaningful barometer of a politicians skills or intelligence.

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                  • rgk5
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Benz View Post

                    Donald Trump claims to be 6'3", so height is not exactly a meaningful barometer of a politicians skills or intelligence.
                    He is not 6' 3". Remember when Tiger was supposedly 6' 1"? I stood 10 feet from him at Glen Abbey and I was easily taller at 6' 1". Press coverage embellishment for both men.
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                    • Arthur Dailey
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                      • Sep 5, 2013
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by rgk5 View Post

                      He is not 6' 3". Remember when Tiger was supposedly 6' 1"? I stood 10 feet from him at Glen Abbey and I was easily taller at 6' 1". Press coverage embellishment for both men.
                      Measurements by Vince McMahon.

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